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Unfortunately things are the other way round
Posted by George D (more from George D) on Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:00:56
In Reply to: Viggen vs S-2000, STICKMAN, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:10:56
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I've raced 2 different S2000's in a straight line and I'm afraid some of the other anwsers are mistaken. Maybe on paper 240hp vs 230hp with high torque seems like an even match but this is not the case.
I've dynoed my car at 270 flywheel (284 corrected for temp) and in both races in a 3rd gear situation I was just marginally faster than the Honda -maybe gained a car length or so.
I have also raced a Viggen which was quite a bit slower than me...
The only encouraging thing I can say is that although these cars have very good theoretical 0-60, they are extremely hard to launch -that or whoever drives one is a stupidly bad at launching. Both launched just about the same as me, and my launches have got room for improvement. So if you get a good start and reduce your front tire pressure 4-5 psi for more grip, (I run 36 to protect the rims) with good luck you may even get a head start.
You may thus avoid humiliation, but don't forget that Saabs have very slow shifting gearboxes as well compared to the S2000...
If you look more carefully at the specs you will see that the Honda weighs just 1200kg (*2.2 for lbs) compared to 1400+kg of the Saab. That's 15% less. Also, torque is good for spirited 3rd gear driving in the mid rpms, but unfortunately what counts in a race is power.
As far as handling, well the S2000 has exceptional handling and a very rigid frame. It is a true sports car. On a track however unless both of you are very very good drivers who can approach the limits of both cars, I think that possibly whoever takes the most risk in cornering speed will make the difference. But with equal driving the S2000 will be quicker no question.
Don't feel disappointed whatever happens; you'll be giving him a run for his money in a large, front wheel drive, family-oriented Saab.
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Posts in this Thread:
- Viggen vs S-2000, STICKMAN, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:10:56
- how about Viggen Vs. 92 911 Carrera2, Geof, Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:15:21
- Re: Viggen vs S-2000, stevo, Thu, 16 Jan 2003 05:15:04
- Re: Oh my, what have I started? . . . =^o, STICKMAN, Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:51:44
- And the WRX STi beats them both at lesser cost....n/m, Phil, Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:37:21
- Re: Viggen vs S-2000, SiDriver, Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:25:27
- "X" vs. "Y"..., Eric Law, Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:38:15
- Re: Viggen vs S-2000, kurt, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:04:16
- Unfortunately things are the other way round, George D, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:00:56 <-- Viewing This Message
- Re: Viggen vs S-2000, GM, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:51:28
- Re: Viggen vs S-2000, Chad, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:30:26
- Re: Viggen vs S-2000, Neil, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:40:21
- Re: Viggen vs S-2000, Vince T, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:35:24
- S2k has NO bottom end at all, Trev, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:25:15
- Keep the honda going up hills and you gotem, officeboy, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:58:26
- Will be close but..., George, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:37:21
- Not close at all!!, Ckpaden, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:01:59
- Re: Not close at all!! (saabers can't drive ricers), officeboy, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:57:00
- Re: Not close at all!! (saabers can't drive ricers), Ckpaden, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:19:58
- Re: Not close at all!! (saabers can't drive ricers), dundonr, Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:02:10
- Re: Not close at all!! (saabers can't drive ricers), SiDriver, Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:47:56
- Re: Not close at all!! (saabers can't drive ricers), GM, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:30:36
- Re: Not close at all!! (saabers can't drive ricers), ckpaden, Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:03:48
- Re: Not close at all!! (saabers can't drive ricers), WW, Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:51:01
- Re: Not close at all!! (saabers can't drive ricers), ckpaden, Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:06:59
- its close..., Joji, Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:02:16
- Re: its close..., 9000RED, Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:16:06
- Re: its close... hey 9000RED, STICKMAN, Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:40:08
- Re: its close..., GM, Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:49:40
- Re: its close..., WW, Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:37:27
- No Turbo Lag in the Viggen, Neil, Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:30:54
- my first race in my S2000 was w/ a Viggen, lig, Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:31:52
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