I've been fortunate enough to own and drive a fair number of high end sports cars over the years. I'm also lucky to have a drive to work that allows me to sort out the highs and lows in very short order.

1. I actually take my cars and weigh them, rather than rely on the brochures. My '86 weighed 2875lbs - 2.0L motor, smaller lighter transmission - no balance shafts, zero sound deadening material, 15 inch wheels and overall a smaller car. It adds up Zeke. My current '97 weighs 3240.

2. I've owned 4 different 9000s since the '86. The '86 went 165000 happy miles on the stock suspension on 205/60/15 series tires. As I recall, the '86 was the only 9000 to make Car&Driver's 10 Best list.

The later cars are delivered soft and they got softer as the years went on. They have so much understeer and so much lateral body roll it's impossible to drive them fast over a twisty road. The current formula for the '97 is konis, lowering coils, SAS roll bars, bushings and 50/16 series tires.

3. As far as the brakes, I was being kind, but rather than go on about it, I suggest a test. Being a fair minded sort, I'll leave out modern cars and pick a couple from the same generation. Go drive a Porsche 968 from 94-95 or a BMW M3 95-96. Then tell me about the 9000 brakes.

Don't get me wrong, I love Saabs. If I didn't I wouldn't own so many of them and I wouldn't go through a fair amount of money and trouble to keep them. They have great motors, beautiful interiors and world class finish.

However, when someone asks an opinion I have to be honest and objective and I'll continue to do that.



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• thoughts on replacing my 92 9000T, Shaun , Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:50:36
  • Found a 97 Aero with salvage title, Shaun , Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:08:36
    • Salvage titles can be hard to register..., David Ingram, Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:02:09
  • Stop blaming GM and go for the newer (better) models!, David Ingram, Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:08:49
  • Re: thoughts on replacing my 92 9000T, Christophe, Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:12:42
  • Depends on your goals for the car...., George, Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:32:43
    • I take issue with some of this......, zeke, Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:53:46
      • You can take issue with this...but;, George, Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:40:00 <-- Viewing This Message
        • LOL!, AdamB , Sun, 21 Dec 2003 12:45:26
        • Re: You can take issue with this...but;, MTAERO , Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:57:32
          • Porsche brakes are the best....., George, Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:51:50
            • Re: Porsche brakes are the best....., MTAERO , Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:16:41
          • One note on brakes (my 2 cent)..., Street, Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:28:29
        • Let's be consistent, and fair......, zeke, Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:31:07
          • While we are comparing apples and grapefruits..., Noel, Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:37:06
          • What does "IIRC" mean?, Scaniac, Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:03:15
            • if i remember correctly n/m, aaalbedo, Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:16:09
        • not fair...!, dim33, Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:11:31
          • ODD claims.., Andrew , Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:46:39
            • People on this site look for advice not for criticism!, dim33, Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:47:53
            • Re: ODD claims.. whatever...., dim33, Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:37:20
            • Re: ODD claims.., Shaun , Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:13:57
  • In terms of profile/rear its a very tough replacement, Hatch_929KAT, Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:29:13
    • Re: In terms of profile/rear its a very tough replaceme, Shaun , Wed, 17 Dec 2003 06:03:18
      • Re: In terms of profile/rear its a very tough replaceme, Craig, Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:21:38

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