Re: Comments on Manual vs. auto Aero ('01) - Saab 9-5 Bulletin Board - Saabnet.com
The banner above is an advertisment - if it asks you to download software, please ignore.
Site News -
[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Clubs | Other Cars | FAQs | Gifts | Member Photo Galleries | Member Directory | Classifieds | Manuals | *Buddy Registry | *Mileage Registry | Polls | What's New | Raffle | Photo of the Month | Sponsors]

95 Bulletin Board
1999-2009 [Subscribe to Daily Digest]
(Search Author's Posts: e.g. Keyword:username)*Members Only

[Main 95 Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Prev by Date | Next by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
Re: Comments on Manual vs. auto Aero ('01)
Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board
Posted by Lou (more from Lou) on Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:48:02 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: Comments on Manual vs. auto Aero ('01), Jeff, Tue, 26 Feb 2002 17:30:52
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

Jeff: I have driven mauals for over thirty five years,in about 30 cars I have owned, and now fully disagree with your premise about how a manual supposedly gives you more control. Modern engine management systems,which are driven by both technology and regulatory issues, have mostly been develped around the premise that there will be an automatic transmission in the vehicle. Putting in a manual is largely an afterthought as far as how well these are integrated into the car. Consider Anti lock brakes as an example. What happens to the engine in your manual shift car when you engage the brakes. you must either step on the clutch quickly, or you end up stopping and starting your engine 15 times per second. If you are in the middle of an emergency maneuver that caused you to activate your anti pock brakes,how much control are you maintaining if your drive wheels are disconnected from the power? The recent posts about how the engine in the 9-5 tends to stay up at higher rpm when first pressing in the clutch? Not even noticable on the automatic. The engine management systems behave much better with an auto box behind them. The drive by wire throttle can tell the transmission when it has been let up much faster than your own reflexes can do in a manual car. Likewise, when the shift is finished, the drive by wire throttle can resume the correct opening to continue accelerating mcuh faster and smoother than a conventional manual could ever do.
There is much more continuous development and refinement going on with automatics today. In fact,the only real work being done with manual transmissions and clutches today is to make them automatic! I'm sure you have read about the new generation E-H transmissons that are starting to show up in high end performance cars. I predict that within five to six years, you will not be able to buy a conventional manual shifter in cars that are in the class of the 9-5,meaning,MB,BMW, Audi,Lexus,Infinity etc, and I believe the US will lead the way in adoption of this new technology, which can offer the manual selection of gears that you speak of, yet do it without the physical act of stepping on a clutch and moving a gear lever.
Personally,I can't wait, but untillI can order my Saab with one of those,I'll take the AW five speed anyday over Saab's excuse for a manual transmission.

posted by 24.128.2...

Posts in this Thread:
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup
Post a Followup

No Site Registration is Required to Post - Site Membership is optional (Member Features List), but helps to keep the site online
for all Saabers. If the site helps you, please consider helping the site by becoming a member.

Name: Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
E-Mail: (Optional)
Re-Enter E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Note: Please check your spam folder for BB responses.

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads may be posted here - use the site classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Not permitted: political/religious topics and being disrespectful (personal attacks, insults, etc...).
 Site Members do not see any red text, inline ad links, bottom of page anchor ads, box ads, or anti-spam check.

Message: (please no for sale/wanted classifieds - post those in the Saabnet.com Classifieds)
Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).

Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post above, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).
Optional Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
Link Title: (Optional)
Optional Photo/Image Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)
Photo/Image to Upload: (Please be patient while file uploads)



StateOfNine.com
SaabClub.com
Jak Stoll Performance
M Car Covers
Ad Available

The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2024 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
For usage guidelines, see the Mission & Privacy Notice.
[Contact | Site Map | Saabnet.com on Facebook | Saabnet.com on Twitter | Shop Amazon via TSN | Site Donations]

Random Saabnet.com Member Gallery Photos (Click Image)
This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Contact | Site Donations | Other Sites by SP - Poverty2Prosperity.org | Run Club Menlo Park | ScreenBot


Site Members do not see red text instructions, bottom of the page anchor ads, or box ads.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!