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Well... Posted by Karl [Email]  (#161) [Profile/Gallery]
(more from Karl) on Tue, 31 Oct 2000 02:46:57
In Reply to: Re: Random thoughts, Stratmoen, Mon, 30 Oct 2000 22:15:34 Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup |
I agree with much of what you just said.
Yes, applying too much power when you know there's "too" much of it constitutes a driver error. But I've heard that much of the Viggen's shortcomings are addressed with the Abbott VRK. Then again I can experience the same "crab walk city" feeling in my 9K Aero (modified ECU, 3" from turbo) when it's even slightly wet. I had violent wheel spin in 3rd @ 60 mph a few weeks ago. Car just slided uncontrollable to the right into the next lane... And the 9K is renowned to have a good chassis setup for a FWD car.
So, yes, I suppose much of the "talk" about the Viggen's bad behavior under power can be attributed to driver skill and to a large extent weak chassis, bad tyres etc. So it can probably be fixed... But still Nordic quote their upgrade at 280 hp for the sole purpose of retaining some driveability...
Perhaps Swedes have a longer experience of FWD cars and bad traction (winter 6 mths per year)? As you pointed out it's all a matter of knowing your car well enough to know when you can fire away.
I had a marvellous car, a Peugeot 405 T16, you probably won't know it, but it's a French 4 door sedan, 2 liter, turbocharged, 220 hp, constant 4WD, 50/50 weight distribution and 53/47 front/rear traction. It's pretty much a civilised relative of the Lancia Delta Integrals. Wonderful roadholding, full tracion at all times. Believe me when I say it took a bit of getting used to 225 FWD horsepower in the Aero. The Peugeot was just "point and shoot", you could always just point it in the direction you'd want to go, full throttle...and it would go exactly where you pointed...but as it turned out reliability wasn't anywhere near where I wanted it... Pity, because it was a true marvel to drive. I could outrun almost any car as soon as traction was even slightly limited...
But it doesn't come close to my Aero in terms of allround capability (hauling 4 people in extreme comfort at outrageous speeds with very modest fuel consumption)...gotta love it!
Well, excuse all my rambling...hope I made some sense somewhere...
/ Karl
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