Will SAABUSA still honor the warranty on a new 9-5 or 9-3 if you use BARs on a new vehicle? If Saab "blesses" BARs on new vehicles than I who am I to raise objections? Do they use it on their aluminum head/cast iron B202/B204 blocks today? I don't know.
I cannot prove BARs is harmful to coolant system used on vehicle since new, nor can you prove it is a benefit. I believe the coolant flushes is the reason for you good history. It is America, we all have freedom of choice to put in our cars whatever we want.
My concern is where some people use BARs on a used Saab without known history to stop heater core leaks, radiator leaks, etc...They are not correcting the root cause of the problem. I have seen first hand the damage of wrong coolant (ethyl glycol Prestone) and neglected flushes (pitted heads, pited blocks, severly corroded head gaskets,etc...) on old 900's (91-92's) that I bought for my daughters.
I have two Saabs, 94 9000 Aero and 94 900TC that have always had Saab anti-freeze flushed every two years since new. i have not replaced water pumps, radiators, or heater cores (except for the 9000 Aero) and I don't use BARs. Temp. gages run very low, with low temp. swing . The heater core (OEM Valeo) w/plastic tanks and aluminum fins appered to fail at the fin-to-plastic tank interface-possibly an epoxy bond failure induced by thermal/mechanical fatigue (since the core has hot coolant flow through every time car is run -since i have ACC). Not like the 900 that has all bronze tank with heater valve to shut off coolant loop.

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• Running hotter after adding Bars Leaks!!, Rod'899kT, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:44:49
  • No, not here, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 16:56:28
    • Re: No, not here, Clayton Parks, Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:28:51
  • Re: Running hotter after adding Bars Leaks!!, Quasi, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:02:11
    • Re: Running hotter after adding Bars Leaks!!, Rod'899kT, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:29:41
      • Running hotter, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 20:23:22
  • Re: Running hotter after adding Bars Leaks!!, Stephen, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:14:51
    • Bull butter, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:05:56
      • I did that search..., BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:45:42
        • More..., Bob Davis, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:10:02
          • The upshot of my argument is..., BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:39:53
    • Bars is a "band aid" that makes cuts worse!!!, John, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:04:21
      • Wrong, John, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:36:02
        • How many total hours of empircal experience do you have, John, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 22:45:12
          • Well, that's cool, but ..., Quasi, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 15:22:18
            • BARs used late in life on high miles is my concern, John, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 19:59:47 <-- Viewing This Message
              • Quasi: 0 head gaskets, John: 3; what more proof ..., Quasi, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 21:24:25
                • Searched For ASTM & ANSI Re:BARs-no hits, John, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:24:05
                  • Dear John and BillJ..., Bob Davis, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:18:30
                    • Mobil 1 is SAE certified. Not untested like BARs, John, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:18:25
                    • That's what we need, BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:42:14
                  • OK, so call it anecdotal evidence, Quasi, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:17:36
                    • Re: OK, so call it anecdotal evidence, SAABTECH , Sun, 25 Aug 2002 13:26:13
                      • Re: OK, so call it anecdotal evidence, BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:18:02
                        • Re: OK, so call it anecdotal evidence, SAABTECH , Sun, 25 Aug 2002 23:46:17
                    • More anecdotal evidence..., BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 09:01:05
                    • Insufficient sample size/No Test Data, John, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 07:45:46
                • Thanks for posting that list..., Bob Davis, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 21:40:57
              • Okay, some hopefully practical points...., Bob Davis, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 20:50:37
                • Drat, did not finish last reply!!!, Bob Davis, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 21:18:33
          • More..., Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 23:55:19
      • Well, of course!, Quasi, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:14:59
      • Flush first, then add BL ?, SaabKen, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:13:37
    • Cobby?, Quasi, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:00:07
      • Re: Cobby?, Stephen, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:06:07
        • More bull butter, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:13:28
        • Cobby is as cobby does, Quasi, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:08:54
          • Re: Cobby is as cobby does, Stephen, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:39:19

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