... do you want? In retrospect, I'm convinced that the previous owner treated my 91 like shit (pardon, but that's what I mean). I got the car at - allegedly - 67 K miles (not sure I beleive it). No, I can't prove that BL kept the cooling system safe, but between Bob Davis and me, we have many years and many tens of thousands of miles of use - and neither of us have ever had to do anything to the cooling system! Not even a 9000 heater core. That may not prove anything to you, but it does to me, whan I read of everyone else's cooling system woes.

We definitely agree on one thing: Trying to fix a neglected cooling system with Bar's Leaks is not good practice, although I do think it's definitely worth a shot, if everything else is done right - flush, refill, do the maintenance, all the sensible things.

I don't know if Saab honors its warranty if you use Bar's Leaks, but check this out: Robert has found that the following OEM's install Bar's Leaks in radiators at their factories:

Allis Chalmers (AGCO)
AM General (Hummer, etc.)
Carrier Transicold
Caterpillar (Canada and USA)
Cloverland (engine rebuilder)
Daimler-Chrysler (US, Canada, and International)
Engine Rebuilders (Canada)
Ford Motor Company (US, Canada, and International)
General Motors Corp. (US, Canada, and International)
Gopher Motors (engine rebuilder)
Isuzu (international)
Jaguar (international)
Komatsu (heavy duty)
Marshall (engine rebuilder)
Mitsubishi (international)
Navistar (International Harvester)
RB&W Logistics (industrial)
Subaru (international)

That list is a few years old; there may be more now. Hey, you have your success stories, we have ours. If you don't want to use Bar's Leaks, that's fine. I'm just telling you that you were out of line to bash it.

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• Running hotter after adding Bars Leaks!!, Rod'899kT, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:44:49
  • No, not here, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 16:56:28
    • Re: No, not here, Clayton Parks, Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:28:51
  • Re: Running hotter after adding Bars Leaks!!, Quasi, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:02:11
    • Re: Running hotter after adding Bars Leaks!!, Rod'899kT, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:29:41
      • Running hotter, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 20:23:22
  • Re: Running hotter after adding Bars Leaks!!, Stephen, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:14:51
    • Bull butter, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:05:56
      • I did that search..., BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:45:42
        • More..., Bob Davis, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:10:02
          • The upshot of my argument is..., BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:39:53
    • Bars is a "band aid" that makes cuts worse!!!, John, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:04:21
      • Wrong, John, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:36:02
        • How many total hours of empircal experience do you have, John, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 22:45:12
          • Well, that's cool, but ..., Quasi, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 15:22:18
            • BARs used late in life on high miles is my concern, John, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 19:59:47
              • Quasi: 0 head gaskets, John: 3; what more proof ..., Quasi, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 21:24:25 <-- Viewing This Message
                • Searched For ASTM & ANSI Re:BARs-no hits, John, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:24:05
                  • Dear John and BillJ..., Bob Davis, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:18:30
                    • Mobil 1 is SAE certified. Not untested like BARs, John, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:18:25
                    • That's what we need, BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:42:14
                  • OK, so call it anecdotal evidence, Quasi, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:17:36
                    • Re: OK, so call it anecdotal evidence, SAABTECH , Sun, 25 Aug 2002 13:26:13
                      • Re: OK, so call it anecdotal evidence, BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:18:02
                        • Re: OK, so call it anecdotal evidence, SAABTECH , Sun, 25 Aug 2002 23:46:17
                    • More anecdotal evidence..., BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 09:01:05
                    • Insufficient sample size/No Test Data, John, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 07:45:46
                • Thanks for posting that list..., Bob Davis, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 21:40:57
              • Okay, some hopefully practical points...., Bob Davis, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 20:50:37
                • Drat, did not finish last reply!!!, Bob Davis, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 21:18:33
          • More..., Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 23:55:19
      • Well, of course!, Quasi, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:14:59
      • Flush first, then add BL ?, SaabKen, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:13:37
    • Cobby?, Quasi, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:00:07
      • Re: Cobby?, Stephen, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:06:07
        • More bull butter, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:13:28
        • Cobby is as cobby does, Quasi, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:08:54
          • Re: Cobby is as cobby does, Stephen, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:39:19

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