Do what works for you, I'll do what works for me. I advise - over and over and over again - everyone to flush and refill every two years with a quality coolant (I use Mercedes, on Townsend's recommendation - perhaps not necessary, but it's only ten bucks, and it's worked for me). And I add Bar's Leaks religiously, simply because - I repeat - I've never had any cooling system problems for as long as I've used it. Perhaps I'd do as well without it, but since I'm doing so well with it, I see no point changing what works for me.

I cannot prove that it is the reason for my success with Saab cooling systems. However, it does appear to prove that BL is, at the very least, not harmful. And with all the tales of Saab cooling system problems out there - and my and Bob's and others' remarkable lack of problems - it makes sense to me to stay with what works. As I said, you have head gasket replacement experience and Bob and I and the rest don't. That's enough for me. I'm happy with what I do, you're happy with what you do. Just be aware that I'm not bashing your methods - they're absolutely sound, and you get good results. Our methods are sound too, as evidenced by our rather remarkable success with our Saab cooling systems. I understand your aversion to additives, and in fact, I share them. But when an additive appears to work, I use it. Our success speaks for itself. I wouldn't advise anyone to use anything that I thought would adversely affect the health of their car, but Saab cooling systems are notoriously problematic, so naturally I look for anything that might help. I don't see how you can ignore our track record. At the very least, I don't see how you can bash this product.

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• Running hotter after adding Bars Leaks!!, Rod'899kT, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:44:49
  • No, not here, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 16:56:28
    • Re: No, not here, Clayton Parks, Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:28:51
  • Re: Running hotter after adding Bars Leaks!!, Quasi, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:02:11
    • Re: Running hotter after adding Bars Leaks!!, Rod'899kT, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:29:41
      • Running hotter, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 20:23:22
  • Re: Running hotter after adding Bars Leaks!!, Stephen, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:14:51
    • Bull butter, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:05:56
      • I did that search..., BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:45:42
        • More..., Bob Davis, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:10:02
          • The upshot of my argument is..., BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:39:53
    • Bars is a "band aid" that makes cuts worse!!!, John, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:04:21
      • Wrong, John, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:36:02
        • How many total hours of empircal experience do you have, John, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 22:45:12
          • Well, that's cool, but ..., Quasi, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 15:22:18
            • BARs used late in life on high miles is my concern, John, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 19:59:47
              • Quasi: 0 head gaskets, John: 3; what more proof ..., Quasi, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 21:24:25
                • Searched For ASTM & ANSI Re:BARs-no hits, John, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:24:05
                  • Dear John and BillJ..., Bob Davis, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:18:30
                    • Mobil 1 is SAE certified. Not untested like BARs, John, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:18:25
                    • That's what we need, BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:42:14
                  • OK, so call it anecdotal evidence, Quasi, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:17:36 <-- Viewing This Message
                    • Re: OK, so call it anecdotal evidence, SAABTECH , Sun, 25 Aug 2002 13:26:13
                      • Re: OK, so call it anecdotal evidence, BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:18:02
                        • Re: OK, so call it anecdotal evidence, SAABTECH , Sun, 25 Aug 2002 23:46:17
                    • More anecdotal evidence..., BillJ, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 09:01:05
                    • Insufficient sample size/No Test Data, John, Sun, 25 Aug 2002 07:45:46
                • Thanks for posting that list..., Bob Davis, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 21:40:57
              • Okay, some hopefully practical points...., Bob Davis, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 20:50:37
                • Drat, did not finish last reply!!!, Bob Davis, Sat, 24 Aug 2002 21:18:33
          • More..., Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 23:55:19
      • Well, of course!, Quasi, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:14:59
      • Flush first, then add BL ?, SaabKen, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:13:37
    • Cobby?, Quasi, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:00:07
      • Re: Cobby?, Stephen, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:06:07
        • More bull butter, Bob Davis, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:13:28
        • Cobby is as cobby does, Quasi, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:08:54
          • Re: Cobby is as cobby does, Stephen, Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:39:19

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