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Re: The real question is...
Posted by jeff in MD really (more from jeff in MD really) on Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:23:32
In Reply to: Re: The real question is..., ELaw

, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:04:36

But the distinction between the Pinto, Beta vs. VHS, indeed the 9-5, and the Volt and other government-backed stuff is that the market freely chose the former and not the latter, and likewise market forces eventually caused consumers to move on to other things.

I prefer my government to stay out of the business of picking winners and losers. It would be like the government deciding that Windows Phone was the best mobile OS and subsidize it to make it more competitive with iOS and Android.

There are way more examples of new products or new takes on existing products that made it just fine without government intervention than the other way around. Government should serve to create a climate where such things can happen, not actively force the issue. The latter path will lead to plenty more Solyndras, Fiskers, etc.

Doesn't it suck that we're debating the virtue of electric cars and government intervention in free markets instead of sharing our excitement at the future of Saab?

Jeff

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Saab brand said to be final hurdle in bankruptcy sale, JohnA , Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:54:58
- SWEDEN: Saab to hire 200 engineers; name doubts linger, JohnA , Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:37:14
- Re: Saab brand said to be final hurdle in bankruptcy sale, JohnA , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:09:52
  - I would not license them yet...., Mark from Toronto, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:35:46
- Press conference at 1pm Swedish time, Kristjan, Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:48:42
  - Looks like SaabsUnited is down, JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 04:07:58
    - They are back up, confirming NEVS as the buyer, JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 04:31:30
      - Re: They are back up, confirming NEVS as the buyer, Snowmobile , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:01:15
        I'm afraid Saab is done..., jeff in MD, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:17:41
        Give it a little time and see..., MI-Roger , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:17:31
        Re: Give it a little time and see..., jeff in MD, Thu, 14 Jun 2012 05:17:58
        Hear, hear...agreed. n/m, Clay McNeely , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:12:35
        Re: I'm afraid Saab is done..., Scott Paterson , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:26:34
        Re: I'm afraid Saab is done..., ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:20:57
        They may not have the Saab brand name yet, JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:46:38
        Re: They may not have the Saab brand name yet, Snowmobile , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:28:14
        Re: They may not have the Saab brand name yet, Tim, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:47:49
        glorified golf carts, Snowmobile , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:17:38
        at 640hp, the battery gets drained in 10min, Tim, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:01:35
        Actuallly a little over 1min, Tim, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:10:17
        that's the reality for ice also..., Snowmobile , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:29:34
        Not even close, Tim, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:26:06
        you misunderstood my point, Snowmobile , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:53:25
        Re: you misunderstood my point, Tim, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:06:58
        link, Snowmobile , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:38:24
        Re: you misunderstood my point, Snowmobile , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:21:39
        But with 640hp, thats one heck of a minute! - n/m, Bruce, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:22:26
        +900 on the battery unit interchangeability, Siegfried, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:55:09
        wasn't BAIC doing this?, Snowmobile , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:04:50
        Re:, Siegfried, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:16:48
        That was proposed back in the 1970s, JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:59:43
        Re: That was proposed back in the 1970s, Bruce, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:20:38
        Yeah sure..., ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:31:04
        How is she liking the Volt? nm, JohnA , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:40:16
        Re: How is she liking the Volt? nm, ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:55:02
        Re: How is she liking the Volt? nm, ALaw, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:21:22
        Thanks for this great write up..., Noel , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:40:27
        Mrs. Law, pleasure to meet you, Siegfried, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:10:37
        question..., Snowmobile , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:30:36
        Re: question..., ALaw, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:07:40
        Re: question..., ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:53:05
        New Saab must solve, Kristjan, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:40:14
        Good point!, ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:09:32
        Re: Good point!, Snowmobile , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:09:04
        Re: Good point!, ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:16:59
        The real question is..., JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:37:52
        Re: The real question is..., ALaw, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:45:48
        Re: The real question is..., Reality, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:35:40
        Re: The real question is..., JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:19:28
        Re: The real question is..., ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:04:36
        Re: The real question is..., Reality, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:43:51
        Re: The real question is..., JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:27:09
        Re: The real question is..., jeff in MD really, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:23:32
        now it's getting testy :), jeff in MD, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:00:37
        Re: now it's getting testy :), Alaw, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:52:49
        wow you're really going off the rails here, jeff in MD really, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:15:30
        Same here, JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:04:50
        A tiny tiny fraction of..., ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:43:57
        I don't buy that, JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:47:13
        Tss!, Siegfried, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:51:10
        Turbo was not as risky as this, JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:16:26
        Turbo WAS risky and Saab must be honored for that, Siegfried, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:47:27
        Wastegate, ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:19:51
        I think I failed, sorry, Siegfried, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:12:57
        You are thinking of Per Gillbrand, Steve T., Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:41:51
        Kudos, Steve! I've found it, Siegfried, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:58:01
        that link didn't work out, Siegfried, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:00:09
        that's a great video., Snowmobile , Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:27:54
        Thanks, that was cool!, Kristjan, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:41:15
        Fair enough, JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:56:58
        I have seen The Wall, JohnA , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:41:32
        Far from "everyone", JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:56:01
        Not for everybody but there is a niche, Kristjan, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:09:16
        A very small niche indeed, JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:22:42
        Re: A very small niche indeed, Son of Saab, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:08:23
        Re: A very small niche indeed, JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:18:00
        electrics, jeff in MD, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:37:37
        Heh..., ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:12:57
        The difference is..., JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:37:15
        Computers not a good comparison, Noel , Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:23:00
        Re: Heh..., jeff in MD really, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:30:02
        Wow..., ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:37:36
        Hybrids are different, JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:43:48
        Fair enough but..., ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:47:59
        Re: Fair enough but..., JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:51:40
        niche vehicles, jeff in MD , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:18:24
        Re: niche vehicles, ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:10:06
        hardly, jeff in MD really, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:25:23
        Re: hardly, ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:59:12
        Re: hardly, jeff in MD really, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:14:38
        Hmmm..., ELaw , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:08:49
        Electrics are too limited, JerseySaab , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:26:12
        9-3 elect first 9-5 and 9-4 are dead..., Mark from Toronto, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:49:48
        Re: 9-3 elect first 9-5 and 9-4 are dead..., jeff in MD really, Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:01:38
        Re: 9-3 elect first 9-5 and 9-4 are dead..., Snowmobile , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:57:46
        another bit of video..., Snowmobile , Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:02:44

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